And so, in my attempt to try to get out, I go towards the other corner of the room. As I'm going to the other side of the cave, I can't see anything. So, I'm still trying to figure out which way I'm going or not going. And then, even out of desperation, I try to escape, wondering if there's a way I can go up. Is there a way to get out by going up?

Is there even an "up"? And I don't even remember being able to look up, because as you think it, so it happens. So, even as I'm saying, "I want to go up" or "Can I go up?" simultaneously, I'm already trying to go up. And I realize that I'm at the ceiling of this place, but it was a fixed boundary, and I couldn't feel what the boundary was. All I knew was that from the point of the ceiling, I felt immense heat.

The amount of heat that I felt on top of me, the immense heat, was so scary. I'm trying to explain it to you, and you have to understand that for me to even do this, for people who know me, this is more than enough to let people know that this is serious. For me to get to this level to explain it, to talk about it, it's not something I'm open about. I'm not someone who easily lets people into my life, whether it's on social media or anything else. I'm a more secretive person.

And so, as I'm hitting the ceiling and feeling this immense heat, right then and there, I thought, "Oh my God, I'm in hell." I couldn't even believe that I was in hell. Now, I could actually feel the heat above me. The heat was so intense, even though I couldn't see any physical flames, it felt like, if I pressed forward, it was enough to make me think, "I don't even want to go up." I knew this fire would consume me, because the heat felt like real-life heat. It felt like you would feel if you put your hand over a stove. It was that kind of heat, but even hotter than what you would consider to be a stove.

So, even as I'm going up, it's like, "Ahh," and I'm coming back down, thinking, "Oh my God, where's all that heat coming from? Why is there this much heat on top of me?" And so, I'm frantically trying to figure out where I am, what's going on. I remember thinking that when I realized I was in hell, the only thing I could think of was to call out Jesus' name. I'm calling out, "Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, what's going on? Jesus, Jesus."

But nothing is happening. And then, I begin to hear an audible voice explaining to me that this is how it is down here, that it's not what I think, that it's actually Mary down here, and that these people, the ones I had seen in the club, were enjoying themselves. I didn't really know who this audible voice was, but I understood what he was saying. I understood what was trying to be told to me because there was no physical being in front of me. It was as if he was communicating with me through my own thoughts, in the same way we hear voices in our heads here on earth.

So, he tells me that this is Mary down here, and that I should have no fear of coming down here, that I could do as I wanted, live as I wanted, and I would be married.

There would be no issue. There wouldn't be a problem. Even as he said this, when he got to the point where he was trying to convince me in my mind and spirit, I thought, "Yo, this isn't true. What are you talking about? I'm horrified. No way. There's no way I'd want to be here. No way would I even consider it."

So, I'm thinking this, and after saying Jesus' name, I'm like, "What's going on?" I keep calling out, "Jesus, what's going on?" And I'm saying His name. The audible voice then got louder, and now he was yelling at me. What appeared in front of me seemed to be an eye. It was a large eye.

I remember the eye. It was unlike any eye we've ever seen on this earth. It had different arrays of colors in the pupil. It was a different kind of eye, and I knew that the voice I had been hearing came from this eye. And now, he said to me, "You dare use that name? You dare use that name after I've shown you everything down here?" But this wasn't said in a calm manner - it was a roaring, intimidating voice. "You dare use that name?" It was furious, infuriated that I had been saying Jesus' name while I was down there.

He then cursed at me, saying, "You didn't use that name... blah, blah, blah." Even now, just seeing that eye, I was so frantically scared. The only thing in my mind was, "This is Lucifer. This is the devil. This is Lucifer yelling at me, in the form of an eye."

It was exactly like you cannot choose to be at a different level of fear, even if you wanted to, because you don't even have the cognitive abilities to decide for yourself, "I'm not going to be scared," or "Let me figure out what's really going on before I act frantic." There is no control over it. The cognitive functions that we have here are completely absent, and that's what people need to understand. There's no controlling it.

A lot of the small things you take for granted - things like autonomy over your mind, your movement, your thoughts, and what happens next - all of that is literally gone. Now I realize how good those things are. Autonomy is a good characteristic to have.

Imagine being without anything that's good. Imagine having no interaction. You can't even consider family. As far as you're concerned, even the familial ties you consider important are so minute they don't really exist. Blood relations are just physical, but the spirit endures on its own. You won't even consider yourself to have brothers or sisters, or loved ones.

The only kindred you have might be with others in the same place, but I don't even know how anyone could have the ability to think of loved ones. For me, I didn't have that ability. All I could endure was what was presently controlling me in that environment, and nothing else mattered.

Nothing else mattered.

And that's why I'm sharing this. I feel like people need to hear this. I've seen tons of near-death experiences or testimonies from people who have experienced hell, on websites or YouTube, but when someone explains it to you, I understand that unless it's meant for you to hear it, you won't really understand it. It doesn't do justice to what it really is, and how it truly feels.

The greatest impact would come only if God has grace and mercy on your life to help you understand what I'm explaining. Physically, you can't really grasp it. It would take a miracle for God to touch someone's heart to help them understand what I'm saying. And I understand that.

So, I'm not doing this for people to believe me. I'm doing this because now, I am in fear of my own record. I'm in fear of answering for my life and what I've done in every aspect of it. Every single part of it. I'm in fear.

I'm in fear of my own thoughts. I'm in fear. Let alone, if it causes me to end up in that place, I'm in fear. Even if I'm not supposed to feel fear, I still feel some of the terror. It's only been two days, so I'm still dealing with the feelings and the memory of it.

I just wanted to share this, in case someone stumbled across this video, unsure of what's going on. Whether you believe in Christ or not, hell is real. Hell is real.

Whether you're an intellectual or someone who's never attended school, hell is real. And hell isn't about belief. This isn't about what you believe. Everyone has the right to their own beliefs, but this is what is true. This is what is really going to happen. What is really going on? What is true?

This has nothing to do with belief. I don't care what your belief is, or what your background is. Nobody will convince me that my experience wasn't real. Nobody can sway me or convince me that what I went through was any less real than it is, no matter what you try to explain to me.

I don't even consider half of what I see here to be real anymore. It's all a facade, a mirage. We're all just passing through, and literally, we're all being deceived. The devil is deceiving us, and it's all deceptive, making us think that we actually have these abilities, that our autonomy can't be taken away, and that this life is really forever. Listen to me.

There's no such thing as YOLO or living for the moment. You're going to have all the time in the world to live for the moment in terror - eternally, in fear. You'll be living for the moment because that moment is all you have, and nothing else will matter. Not one single thing you do here for enjoyment will even be remembered, to say that at least you lived a good life. The only thing you'll have to hold onto is the question: Why did I even have a life to end up here in the first place?

I would have rather not even had a life. I would have rather not even had any pleasurable thing, because at least there's still hope that you'll get through it. There's still hope that you can do something better at the end of the road. There's still hope that things can change. But we talk about this all the time - the premise behind living for the moment is that you only live once.

Now, imagine if I told you that you only die once too, and then that's it. Fate is sealed. And if you can't understand eternity now, you'll understand it then. And it's not up for discussion.

It's not up for debate. I'm not looking for political talk. I'm not looking for schools of thought. I'm not looking for religious faiths and beliefs in the afterlife. I'm not looking for literature. I'm not looking for any of those things. The word of God is the word of God, and that's all. And in that place, all you'll know and understand is that it is true. There's no debate. People are not debating down there.

Nobody's debating. Nobody's trying to figure it out. No one's trying to debate amongst each other. Even if you don't believe in God or you're unsure why you chose Him, you still don't want to be there. Do you hear what I'm saying?

You still don't want to be there.

So I know that even if you're a devout Satanist, and you believe in following him, and Satan is your guide, and you adhere to his principles, you still won't want to be there. You still won't want to be in that place. You won't even think about why you chose him. All you'll want to do is beg for your life to get out of there.

Everyone is trying to get out. Everyone is trying to get out, and nobody is concerned about the suffering of anyone else. What you're going through is so intense, at such a high level, that you wouldn't even remember if you had a mom or a life before. How many brothers and sisters you had - these things won't matter.

Who's your loved one? Where are your kids? None of it matters. None of it. So I just wanted to put that out there and let everyone hear this because if you can't see from my face, my expression, or feel it coming from my heart that I'm telling the truth, I have no reason to lie. I have no reason to do this. Nobody has a reason to just say things just to say things. People can give an account for what they want, but I know what was real.

For me, I want to make sure my record is clean so that you can't say I didn't say it. So that everyone knows that Joe said it. I want everyone to know that Joe said it. That I said it. That's how important it is to me not to be there.

Yes, I said it. I told you. So my hands are washed because I told you.

I told you, because now I'm going to be accountable for how I live my life from this day forward. So that's the most honest thing I can do for people. If I love you, this is the most honest thing I can do. And I can tell you - you can write it off, live your life here. You can continue to live your life here. But like I said, everyone will have their day, and that's not going to stop. That's the one thing no one can overrule or outrun.

As long as you have your day, it's coming. When they say the day you were born, the experience of the day you die is coming. You can't say you didn't hear it. At least not from me. You can't say it, because this is my eternal proof that I let people know this was real. Hell is real. Hell is real.

There's no such thing as coming close as Christians.

If you even debate in your mind, if you have to even review your record to figure out whether or not you're going, you're already probably on the wrong side. Because I'm telling you right now, the decision needs to be unanimous. We're not looking for a majority vote. There's no board in heaven. There's not a majority vote as to who's going and whether you're going or not.

There's no politicking. It's unanimous. Either the Lord knows you or He doesn't. Either you have a relationship with Him or you don't. And what I mean by relationship, I'm not talking about a past relationship now.

Now. Right now. You could even know God. You could have prayed to Him and He answered your prayers. And that was your proof as to why you attained to this faith that you believe in God, or you've told other people about Jesus because of little experiences you had, whether you prayed or you were healed before, or you've always had a feeling. Maybe you've even had His presence with you before, or you're even more of an active believer.

You know, you've had an ongoing relationship with Him throughout your entire life. Maybe you grew up in a church - whatever it is. If you do not have the Spirit of the Lord in you, free from indwelling sin, free from you - hear what I said? Free from indwelling sin - at the moment He comes, or the moment you die, you'll find yourself in hell. And you'll be thinking to yourself, "But I'm a Christian." You wouldn't even understand. You wouldn't even understand why you're there. You won't understand.

To me, that's too much like Russian roulette. That's too much. I'm not looking to come close. I'm not trying to just get in. Because now that I realized there's no such thing as just not getting in. You're not gonna just make it in. There's no such thing. There's no review of the evidence. You're in or you're out.

Either His blood is on you or it's not. Either His Spirit is in you or it's not. Because it's not merit-based. It's not based on what works you do, what good things you perform. That's what I mean. It's carnal.

Because even as someone who thinks they're a Christian, you don't have to believe in all that spiritual stuff. You just believe that if you're a good person, you're gonna make it. There's no review. Do you hear what I'm saying? At death comes determination.

At death comes judgment. There's no appeal. I don't even know if you'll have time for disagreement. Like I said, when I was there, everybody was zombie-like because everybody literally could not do anything about it at all. So what you think and believe means nothing.

You have no power. What you think and believe means nothing. You have no power. So you better tap into the source. You better find out who really has power, who is the King of this earth, because everything here perishes and don't buy into the lie.

Don't buy into the lie. Please, I'm begging people. Please, do not buy into the lie. The biggest lie of them all: we are not gods at all. At all. We are not gods.

That's what I mean. Even the little bit of ability that we have here, man, we're fooled. He's gotten us to believe that we're really gods. We really think that the way we think matters. We really think that what we say, and how we feel, and how we see things matters.

You have no say at all. At all. And you have no power. So you better, you better find the source. That's my best advice.

Find, get to the source. All that matters is I can get to the source. I used to be one too. You know, the aspirations. Everybody wants to, at least when you're here, think to yourself, "What's wrong with wanting to either live a decent life or live a better life?"

And the means that you use to get there, whether it be good or bad, everybody's up to their own, you know, their own judgment. Leave everybody up to their own judgment. You know, pursue what you wanna pursue. I don't even really know what the point of pursuit is at this moment at all, unless it's for His purpose, unless it's for me to have an understanding of where I'm going. Because this pass-through is so temporary.

The timing is so short. And matter of fact, it's not even about the timing. The fact that I know that every man is going to die, and the chance and the risk that I could end up there, if anybody goes there, anybody that is there would wish they had a second chance. Because they probably would be radical. They wouldn't even live this life caring about what they ate, or how many hours they're getting of sleep, or whether or not their kids are rebellious, or whether or not their mom loves them, or whether or not their dad loves them, or whether or not all the frivolous things that we care about. I don't even know if I want to care about any of those things.

Even though I still have love for those things, and the people in my family. You know. There's no way that I will allow those things anymore to have any priority over my eternal destination. That's the key. You want to talk about winning? We love talking about winning.

Winning is making it eternally to your destination. That's how you win. Find your eternal destination.